Comments for Brianna's Blog: ED5100/ED6150 http://bribal.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:15:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Data Collection in the Gallery by moana http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/data-collection-in-the-gallery/#comment-29 moana Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:15:21 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-29 Great work! I agree that questions about impressions and fulfillment of expectations yield more interesiting results. Only after the survey is fulfilled will we know if the answers we recieve will be groupable or so diverse that they will not create a clear picture. I think that we will recieve some wacky answers but for the most part, visitors responses will file under a few catagories. I also experienced the same fear of bothering viewers in the gallery though i found that when i engaged them in the gallery setting there were two types of responses. 1st, they thouight i was working for the Corcoran andreally wanted to give feedback. Some of these discussions were mostly art speak and i gathered that these were more experienced viewers. 2nd some people seemed afraid and put on the spot. Like they did not know what to say or did not have a fully formed opinion yet. Surprisingly no one acted hurried or said they were too busy to talk. I guess that is the funny thing about catching people when they are in the act of viewing the art. Its not like they can say they are too busy. Busy doing what? Looking at are i guess! :) Maybe because art is viewed as a leisure and enrichment activity in our society. I wonder what kinds of questions will be most intriguing...Any thoughts on asking what was the best/worst part of show? Does this question imply only art or does it hav emore general musem implications...? Great work! I agree that questions about impressions and fulfillment of expectations yield more interesiting results. Only after the survey is fulfilled will we know if the answers we recieve will be groupable or so diverse that they will not create a clear picture. I think that we will recieve some wacky answers but for the most part, visitors responses will file under a few catagories.

I also experienced the same fear of bothering viewers in the gallery though i found that when i engaged them in the gallery setting there were two types of responses. 1st, they thouight i was working for the Corcoran andreally wanted to give feedback. Some of these discussions were mostly art speak and i gathered that these were more experienced viewers. 2nd some people seemed afraid and put on the spot. Like they did not know what to say or did not have a fully formed opinion yet.

Surprisingly no one acted hurried or said they were too busy to talk. I guess that is the funny thing about catching people when they are in the act of viewing the art. Its not like they can say they are too busy. Busy doing what? Looking at are i guess! :) Maybe because art is viewed as a leisure and enrichment activity in our society. I wonder what kinds of questions will be most intriguing…Any thoughts on asking what was the best/worst part of show? Does this question imply only art or does it hav emore general musem implications…?

]]> Comment on Data Collection in the Gallery by Farolyn Taylor http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/data-collection-in-the-gallery/#comment-28 Farolyn Taylor Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:07:45 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=15#comment-28 I enjoyed reading this reflection. I experienced similar feelings toward approaching people in the gallery. Most of the people I spoke with were enjoying the art but I did feel out of place and on someone else's time. I do think that your new question will be more inviting and thought-provoking for you as well as the museum visitors. While in the gallery, I wondered if the visitors were satisfied. There were all types of people, young and old, some excited and graciously walking through and some did not seem excited at all and briskly walked through not even taking the time to view each piece. I enjoyed reading this reflection. I experienced similar feelings toward approaching people in the gallery. Most of the people I spoke with were enjoying the art but I did feel out of place and on someone else’s time. I do think that your new question will be more inviting and thought-provoking for you as well as the museum visitors. While in the gallery, I wondered if the visitors were satisfied. There were all types of people, young and old, some excited and graciously walking through and some did not seem excited at all and briskly walked through not even taking the time to view each piece.

]]> Comment on Audience research: narrowing down the questions… by moana http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/audience-research-narrowing-down-the-questions/#comment-26 moana Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:18:01 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-26 I think we are heading in a great direction. Having fewer questions but allowing them to be more open ended will allow for a bigger picture to be created. These are good questions that will tell us a lot about our museum and its place in the art and education communities. I see no problem having guests fill out a single page survey sheet with a handful of open ended yet targeted questions. I think the "Were your expectations met" question is valuable and will tell us a lot about what a museum goer expects from a museum. Thinking about what kind of data we are hoping to get will help us tailor our questions suitably. I think we are heading in a great direction. Having fewer questions but allowing them to be more open ended will allow for a bigger picture to be created. These are good questions that will tell us a lot about our museum and its place in the art and education communities.

I see no problem having guests fill out a single page survey sheet with a handful of open ended yet targeted questions. I think the “Were your expectations met” question is valuable and will tell us a lot about what a museum goer expects from a museum. Thinking about what kind of data we are hoping to get will help us tailor our questions suitably.

]]> Comment on Audience research: narrowing down the questions… by amanda Dudek http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/audience-research-narrowing-down-the-questions/#comment-25 amanda Dudek Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:35:22 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-25 Hi Brianna- After reading your blog it seems like you guys are at a good point. A few things regarding your questions- I like the idea of letting the visitors walk around with the survey and not throwing it at them right when they get into the door- but my only concern is that will they actually get it done, or will it get lost or thrown away?? maybe if there is someone there collecting them when they leave the gallery might help with this problem. Perhaps if you do want to do the expectations question you have 2 sheets one that they fill out with jsut that question b4 they enter the museum and another to walk around wtih them. I am assuming the expectation question wouldnt take to long and most people would be open to it. I also am thinking that if you can narrow down your questions to as specific and as little as possible to answer that might help in people actually participating in this. No one is going to want to answer 2 pages of of questions when they expect to come to the museum. I think it is resonable to ask them about 5. I do like how katherine chose a few questions and then depending on the answer they had a question to follow them. That was a good idea. Well good luck guys! Hi Brianna-

After reading your blog it seems like you guys are at a good point. A few things regarding your questions- I like the idea of letting the visitors walk around with the survey and not throwing it at them right when they get into the door- but my only concern is that will they actually get it done, or will it get lost or thrown away?? maybe if there is someone there collecting them when they leave the gallery might help with this problem. Perhaps if you do want to do the expectations question you have 2 sheets one that they fill out with jsut that question b4 they enter the museum and another to walk around wtih them. I am assuming the expectation question wouldnt take to long and most people would be open to it. I also am thinking that if you can narrow down your questions to as specific and as little as possible to answer that might help in people actually participating in this. No one is going to want to answer 2 pages of of questions when they expect to come to the museum. I think it is resonable to ask them about 5. I do like how katherine chose a few questions and then depending on the answer they had a question to follow them. That was a good idea.
Well good luck guys!

]]> Comment on American Evolution audience research… by Laura http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/american-evolution-audience-research/#comment-24 Laura Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:51:40 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-24 This is the question the group is hoping to answer: Why visitors chose to come to the Corcoran over all the other free and more well known museums within Washington DC. area? What types of art do expect to see at The Corcoran show today? Did you know that one of the exhibits is on The American Evolution? Do you know with what type of art The American Evolution is? How did you find out about the exhibit of The American Evolution? Have you been to the Corcoran before? If not, how did you hear about the Corcoran? Are you a member and if so how long? Are you from DC metro area and if not where are you from? Did you know there was an admission price? Were you satisfied with the show? I think these are some great questions to start with. Have these questions as a survey with This is the question the group is hoping to answer:
Why visitors chose to come to the Corcoran over all the other free and more well known museums within Washington DC. area?

What types of art do expect to see at The Corcoran show today?
Did you know that one of the exhibits is on The American Evolution?
Do you know with what type of art The American Evolution is?
How did you find out about the exhibit of The American Evolution?

Have you been to the Corcoran before?

If not, how did you hear about the Corcoran?

Are you a member and if so how long?
Are you from DC metro area and if not where are you from?
Did you know there was an admission price?
Were you satisfied with the show?

I think these are some great questions to start with. Have these questions as a survey with

]]> Comment on Audience research: narrowing down the questions… by bawakate http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/audience-research-narrowing-down-the-questions/#comment-23 bawakate Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:47:43 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-23 I was originally going to comment on your last post. I think you had good ideas about necessary background info-- trying to find out all the ways the Corcoran promoted the show: "What methods were used to promote show?" "Has Corcoran done similar studies for past shows?" "What were the results of such studies and how did they influence Corcoran PR methods?" We can totally drop my interest in EXPECTATIONS. I think questionnaire format is way to go and would suggest PRE. I was going to say that we should leave it totally open-ended: 1. What was the most important factor in your choice to come to the Corcoran today? 2. What other things influenced your choice to come to the Corcoran today? BUT looking at your suggested questions, maybe open-ended will not get us any recognizable categories. Open-ended will require more initial data analysis to group responses into themes. YOUR QUESTIONS: Have you been to the Corcoran before? Are you a member? (does this necessarily correlate to their choice to come to the American Evolution show?-- maybe an "if so,' follow-up to this like, "If so, did your prior experience at the Corcoran influence your choice to come to this show?") How did you first learn of the Corcoran? (good, this will get at sources of knowledge about CORC) Are you from DC area? If not, how did you hear about the Corcoran? (good-- not sure about place in scheme of questions) Did you see advertisements for the American Evolution show? (GREAT-- this is our point. I would add, "If so, where?") Did you know there was an admission price? (This is part of your motivation for topic-- where in order of questions? Maybe 1st?) I was originally going to comment on your last post. I think you had good ideas about necessary background info– trying to find out all the ways the Corcoran promoted the show: “What methods were used to promote show?” “Has Corcoran done similar studies for past shows?” “What were the results of such studies and how did they influence Corcoran PR methods?”

We can totally drop my interest in EXPECTATIONS. I think questionnaire format is way to go and would suggest PRE. I was going to say that we should leave it totally open-ended: 1. What was the most important factor in your choice to come to the Corcoran today? 2. What other things influenced your choice to come to the Corcoran today? BUT looking at your suggested questions, maybe open-ended will not get us any recognizable categories. Open-ended will require more initial data analysis to group responses into themes.

YOUR QUESTIONS:
Have you been to the Corcoran before? Are you a member? (does this necessarily correlate to their choice to come to the American Evolution show?– maybe an “if so,’ follow-up to this like, “If so, did your prior experience at the Corcoran influence your choice to come to this show?”)

How did you first learn of the Corcoran? (good, this will get at sources of knowledge about CORC)

Are you from DC area? If not, how did you hear about the Corcoran? (good– not sure about place in scheme of questions)

Did you see advertisements for the American Evolution show? (GREAT– this is our point. I would add, “If so, where?”)

Did you know there was an admission price? (This is part of your motivation for topic– where in order of questions? Maybe 1st?)

]]> Comment on Audience research: narrowing down the questions… by Kate Libcke http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/audience-research-narrowing-down-the-questions/#comment-22 Kate Libcke Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:20:23 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-22 Yes, I think that is ALOT of questions to be throwing at them if you are just handing them a questionnaire. When coming up with these surveys, I think that it is best to think of it as if you were filling it out. Would you stop to fill it out? OR Would you use the piece of paper to spit out your gum? It might help to ask the questions yourself. If you don't want to take this route, I totally understand. But if you do, think about how you can make that faster. Have boxes with answers that you think they might give, for you or them (if they are filling them out) to check off as you go through the questions. I hope this helps. See you tomorrow. Yes, I think that is ALOT of questions to be throwing at them if you are just handing them a questionnaire. When coming up with these surveys, I think that it is best to think of it as if you were filling it out. Would you stop to fill it out? OR Would you use the piece of paper to spit out your gum?
It might help to ask the questions yourself. If you don’t want to take this route, I totally understand. But if you do, think about how you can make that faster. Have boxes with answers that you think they might give, for you or them (if they are filling them out) to check off as you go through the questions.
I hope this helps. See you tomorrow.

]]> Comment on American Evolution audience research… by Farolyn Taylor http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/american-evolution-audience-research/#comment-21 Farolyn Taylor Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:29:26 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-21 Hi Briana! This is intense. I see that towards the end of the writing you narrowed much of our inquiry into two or three questions. I think that the expectation questions are more practical and easier for the museum visitors to respond to. I do applaud you for trying to accommodate each group members research interests. With so many interests the sole question of each group member is over generalized into one big question that may not suit the interest of the individuals. To complete the research about the Corcoran Gallery of Art advertising method, the researcher would have to gather written records including press releases, newspapers, radio reports, television reports (Designing Qualititative Research by Catherine Marshall pg 135). I wonder if it is easy to access this information and how can the researcher get a hold of it. I know the library has an archive filled with tons of newspapers. I am assuming that the demographic information could be easily simplified into little check boxes including age, and citizenship. How could the questions be formulated so that the visitors would be more inclined to invest their time to answer the questions? I wonder about the size of paper. The type font and size. The color of the paper. The type of utensil used, a gel pen or a pencil. I guess we could do a test trial questionnaire to see how the museum visitors respond to a few of the questions. I hope this helped. Have a Good Day! Hi Briana! This is intense. I see that towards the end of the writing you narrowed much of our inquiry into two or three questions. I think that the expectation questions are more practical and easier for the museum visitors to respond to. I do applaud you for trying to accommodate each group members research interests. With so many interests the sole question of each group member is over generalized into one big question that may not suit the interest of the individuals. To complete the research about the Corcoran Gallery of Art advertising method, the researcher would have to gather written records including press releases, newspapers, radio reports, television reports (Designing Qualititative Research by Catherine Marshall pg 135). I wonder if it is easy to access this information and how can the researcher get a hold of it. I know the library has an archive filled with tons of newspapers. I am assuming that the demographic information could be easily simplified into little check boxes including age, and citizenship. How could the questions be formulated so that the visitors would be more inclined to invest their time to answer the questions? I wonder about the size of paper. The type font and size. The color of the paper. The type of utensil used, a gel pen or a pencil. I guess we could do a test trial questionnaire to see how the museum visitors respond to a few of the questions. I hope this helped. Have a Good Day!

]]> Comment on To Be and To Have…thoughts by Mandeesa http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/to-be-and-to-havethoughts/#comment-15 Mandeesa Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:39:18 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=11#comment-15 Bri, I totally understand your uncertainty of developing a classroom personality. However, I think once you (anyone for that matter) gets a little more experience under your belt you will be just fine. I have only taught one semester, but I learned SO MUCH from that experience that I have changed for the better. I also know that I will continue to grow with the more experience that I get. I know the same will be for you and to not worry about it. I also wondered about Msr. Lopez's gender having a role in the way his students respected/interacting with him. As we know in the states, the majority of teachers (especially at the elementary level) are females. I wonder if in France that is different...since his parents were happy with his "highly regarded" job of being a teacher. Maybe in france there are more male teachers? or an even amount? While I have heard in the states students are more likely to react differently to male teachers, but I think that may be because there are so few of them in the system. I am not sure though. That is just my ramblings. Also, I think one thing that did help Msr. Lopez so much was his strong relationship with each individual student. He may have been able to keep those up because of the small amount of students in his classroom and his rural community, but definitely keeping an intimate relationship with your students is going to be a positve influence on their learning. If a student knows they can talk to their teacher about anything, as Msr. Lopez has done (even keeping relationships with his students when they move on to middle school) allows students to know that they can trust him and count on him for support. I think that is how he gained their respect. Bri,

I totally understand your uncertainty of developing a classroom personality. However, I think once you (anyone for that matter) gets a little more experience under your belt you will be just fine. I have only taught one semester, but I learned SO MUCH from that experience that I have changed for the better. I also know that I will continue to grow with the more experience that I get. I know the same will be for you and to not worry about it.

I also wondered about Msr. Lopez’s gender having a role in the way his students respected/interacting with him. As we know in the states, the majority of teachers (especially at the elementary level) are females. I wonder if in France that is different…since his parents were happy with his “highly regarded” job of being a teacher. Maybe in france there are more male teachers? or an even amount? While I have heard in the states students are more likely to react differently to male teachers, but I think that may be because there are so few of them in the system. I am not sure though. That is just my ramblings.

Also, I think one thing that did help Msr. Lopez so much was his strong relationship with each individual student. He may have been able to keep those up because of the small amount of students in his classroom and his rural community, but definitely keeping an intimate relationship with your students is going to be a positve influence on their learning. If a student knows they can talk to their teacher about anything, as Msr. Lopez has done (even keeping relationships with his students when they move on to middle school) allows students to know that they can trust him and count on him for support. I think that is how he gained their respect.

]]> Comment on Critique by Katharine http://bribal.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/critique/#comment-12 Katharine Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:49:54 +0000 http://bribal.wordpress.com/?p=10#comment-12 I questioned the same part of Marvin Bartel’s critique process that you did: #3 on things to remember, “Try to write what you think that other person wants to hear.” This seemed to obstruct any constructive criticism, any possible suggestions for alterations, ways to improve the piece under gaze. I felt like his general outline was good, but it seemed to be an exercise in art criticism writing instead of/in addition to a critique. Do you think you would like students to write their comments 100% of the time? Who would this privilege? How would handwriting play into the reception of comments? LIKE, are these supposed to be anonymous OR is the writing used as a tool to start discussion? Its not that writing is BAD per se, in fact challenging the students to use a new vocabulary in a new format is a great teaching/learning opportunity. I think Marvin Bartel’s format would work with students high school age, maybe junior high. How would you adapt the rubric for different ages? Older and younger. Your very last sentence excited me– taking the UbD idea into practice, i.e., learning to look at art will help teach students a method for looking at the world critically for the rest of their lives! Excellent proposition and I believe a valid cause for the art room. I questioned the same part of Marvin Bartel’s critique process that you did: #3 on things to remember, “Try to write what you think that other person wants to hear.” This seemed to obstruct any constructive criticism, any possible suggestions for alterations, ways to improve the piece under gaze. I felt like his general outline was good, but it seemed to be an exercise in art criticism writing instead of/in addition to a critique. Do you think you would like students to write their comments 100% of the time? Who would this privilege? How would handwriting play into the reception of comments? LIKE, are these supposed to be anonymous OR is the writing used as a tool to start discussion? Its not that writing is BAD per se, in fact challenging the students to use a new vocabulary in a new format is a great teaching/learning opportunity. I think Marvin Bartel’s format would work with students high school age, maybe junior high. How would you adapt the rubric for different ages? Older and younger.
Your very last sentence excited me– taking the UbD idea into practice, i.e., learning to look at art will help teach students a method for looking at the world critically for the rest of their lives! Excellent proposition and I believe a valid cause for the art room.

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